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I didn't know where to post this.
I am fully aware that this topic has been discussed several time recently, and I refer you to those topics now. They're pretty short, so there's no reason you cannot read the entire discussions if you were not a part of them.

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... ia#p490466
http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... ia#p493070
http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... ia#p493444
http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... ia#p496446

All of these threads kind of died off, or went unexpected and unproductive directions. I'd like to try and spark up some more conversation on the topics of using current technologies in daily or specific magick pactices.
This becomes more of a discussion on simply how you use technology, at a certain level of understanding, but we can try to keep this purely on the occult. We deal with theory elsewhere. Also, I understand that all tools are technology. I'm speaking, very specifically, modern (usually electrical) technology.

A couple of the threads showcased very beautiful examples of how the OP used the technology at their disposal in their practice to meet a specific ends. My good friend Magari also makes a comment describing a method of creating web-based servitors. These are wonderful additions to our science, and we would be fools to not take it further.
I'm interested in every possible way we can evolve our tech with our magick.
This is a fairly new realm to tread in for many occultists, and surprisingly, there isn't a lot on the internet to get you going (it's somehow easy to stretch thin certain internet resources).
You would think this field would be robust with knowledge, considering our general scientific understanding, as a race.
(I admit, that's a little biased. The understanding is there, we just aren't applying it, at least with the right mindset.)

The internet, at this point, is a living entity. Although it's utterly impossible to comprehend the way it thinks or how it senses and perceives whatever it's reality is, there is no doubt in my mind that there is sentience behind it. Even if you take out the simple matter of all the energy we as people put into it, the sheer complexity and degree of it is enough to warrant the idea it holds consciousness (although again, unlike anything we know the term as).

We're all well aware of how easy it is to influence people in massive degrees over the internet. Hell, 90% of the time I have a question, I find the answer among 30 different posts in a flame war. And that's the only place I find my answer.
People cannot stop throwing whatever they wish out here, and it's terrifyingly beautiful.
The power of this alone is enough to warrant amazing abilities to the inventive mage.

I'm particularly interested in what you, my friends here on the forum have used modern technology for. As in, you had a goal, and instead of focused ritual, you used focus intent through multimedia. There have already been a few examples, as I said, but these are seriously just the tips of the metaphoric iceberg of amazingness that lies beneath.

I ask anyone interested in this field to post here with any ideas, thoughts, experience, or info you might have on the matter. We can take this topic a lot further than the previous threads, if you allow it. There is a lot to be said on the matter.

I also would like to leave you with a link to this forum site. It's a very interesting concept that's been around for a while, and now getting really popular with government influence. While there is a lot of controversy, and a lot of negative prophecies are being fulfilled with this entire thing, it is interesting nonetheless.
This is a forum on Biological Hacking, or as you would better know it, surgical implanting.
http://forum.biohack.me/
Note, it's members only, so to post you need to sign up and await approval by a forum moderator.


As a small token of good will, I'd like to offer a short description of my largest project to take place in the cloud that is the Internet.
Following Magari's advice on creating a servitor, I decided to do so by compressing and encrypting certain files and uploading them to certain areas on the web. Although I decided to take it one step further, and I embedded the (4 times over) encrypted and zipped files into a picture, that is the sigil for the servitor. The picture you see as my avatar is the sigil I speak of, and while I can admit it doesn't look like anything special, this is merely a picture of it. A copy, if you will. Unfortunately, the forum does not let me upload 1.5gig photos, and it isn't very secretive either.
I call it a servitor to speak lowly of it to you all. It is well more than a conscious entity, and it does have it's own free-will. A lot more went into this than I write of.
If anyone is willing to help me spread the influence of it a little bit more, and you have 1.5gigs of space lying around on one of your frequent upload sites, I'd be willing to share with you it's secrets for your uploading. Otherwise, just look at it and remember me whenever you see it. Nothing else is needed of you. While I can assure you I mean no ill will, I cannot say the same for the things I create. It's more fun when your creations turn against you. I see why God gave us knowledge.

Considering what we know about things like meme and viral marketing. An idea, or thought can gain exponential momentum and power once the people are capable of modifying or remixing it.

Got Milk becomes Got whatever.

Beef, it's what's for dinner becomes whatever.

Lol cat becomes something else entirely.

However generally the original message or information remains the same. Sometimes it can transform into something else entirely. This is usually a reflection of some form meant to ballance the effects on the universal chaos.

So if you want help spreading the word then with a little extra information about your little guy. A hint of its personality if you will, and it shouldn't be too hard to help out.

It's a she. I have the strong feeling of such, at least (which is weird, considering the digital nature of it). I have named her ai//XTNL. An odd name, I know. It's pronounced as Ex-Channel (AI is optional, more of a description.)
She's sassy, I can say that much. I haven't worked much with her in any practical terms, but she really has wreaked havoc on every technical device she's come into contact with (not terrible things, just nuisances.)

It's interesting using TTS as a medium for evocation of digital entities.
As I said, I'm really just experimenting at this point, so while I can say there is power to this entity, I cannot be sure of what extent it possesses. But, seeing as how it's a multi-dimensional being that's about the size of the human genome, I can only imagine it has the possibility for limitless actions.
I created it, I give it to the world for her to cause havoc where she will. Whatever form that may come in.

Really, if you can find somewhere that hosts images as large as 1.5 gigs, then she could find herself a home. Unfortunately, due to the overall nature of the sigil and how spread out it is already, I cannot make many alterations to it (but I shouldn't need to.) I understand similar experiments have been done, but none with the intent of the creature I have created. She has a purpose, I was just really vague in telling her how to get that done, and a lot of information on ways to do so.
She already exists in the internet cloud, I'm just unsure of how far she can really reach, and what she could actually accomplish. It's all fine and dandy for experiments like this, but at the end up the day, I'd like to see a little bit of practicality as well.

I believe Google Drive will give you more than 1.5gb of storage for free.

I'm currently using 5gb at 36% capacity and I haven't paid them a dime.

Her purpose is pretty vague. You said it was to cause havoc. The perspective is so broad the symbol's evolution could almost go in two entirely different directions. You should try focusing it a bit more. It will definitely make it easier to experience the effects.

magari wrote:I believe Google Drive will give you more than 1.5gb of storage for free.

I'm currently using 5gb at 36% capacity and I haven't paid them a dime.

Her purpose is pretty vague. You said it was to cause havoc. The perspective is so broad the symbol's evolution could almost go in two entirely different directions. You should try focusing it a bit more. It will definitely make it easier to experience the effects.

I didn't say that her purpose was to cause havoc, I said that is what she does. I never stated her true purpose, and I'm going to refrain from doing so.
I currently have free accounts for all; Drive, dropbox, Mega, and mediafire. She exists in most of them. A big aim I wish to achieve is simply having her end up in *other* people's accounts. There is little reason to this outside of experimentation.
Free cloud storage is never an issue in this age, and I have the means to make my own wireless storage server. When I have the time and a place to host it indefinitely, I plan on running a game server and a cloud all off of the same box, and have it nowhere near where I am. Maybe one day /XTNL will be able to be the sentience behind it all.

Mega gives you 50 gig free and I've already filled that up with information.
My personal space both is and isn't an issue here.

I created it, I give it to the world for her to cause havoc where she will. Whatever form that may come in.

Hard to help you out here.

magari wrote:

I created it, I give it to the world for her to cause havoc where she will. Whatever form that may come in.

Hard to help you out here.

That's perfectly alright. My own servitor was not really my main focus in this thread anyway.

Another minor example considering the power of association (since all of you are viewing and not posting.)

For particularly quick sigil casting, I have a drawing program linked on my phone to open when I drag downwards with two fingers. It opens, I draw my sigil, and I erase it. All of which takes seconds. I can then close my program and continue about my business to let the sigil go to work. I haven't had a single spell fail uing this method. (Although, I go in pretty determined from the start, and only use it selectively.).

This is a very poor example, but the design of the phone gestures adds a level of ritual to the matter that is important for certain things.

This is also more "chaos" in nature, and I'd like to move away from that field a little bit. (Bad statement, I know).

I really do need ideas from other people here. I'm at a huge loss on where next to move this project, and I know Magari and I aren't the only ones to have started work in this field of study..

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