Original post: durki
It has been reported that near-death experiences get triggered in some persons through sexual orgasms. This area needs to be explored & researched further to deepen our understanding of the relation that exists between sex & altered states of consciousness.
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Original post: Astral Tempest
It does have a dissociative effect. Perhaps due a sort of 'fantasy becoming reality' sort of thing?
I have insomnia and am therefore hopelessly inarticulate. Sorry.
It does have a dissociative effect. Perhaps due a sort of 'fantasy becoming reality' sort of thing?
I have insomnia and am therefore hopelessly inarticulate. Sorry.
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ummm.... I don't know if anyone else has ever really felt this. But I just want comments on this.
There was one time when I had sex with a Deity while I was inside my body. I was half asleep and half awake. And it felt as if the Deity wasn't mergng Her energy in an intercourse with my physical body. It felt like She was having intercourse with a body *inside* my physical body.
It may be just that my energy body/ etheric body became loose from my physical one during the energy merging intercourse. I think that's the mechanism that works here. When spirits have physical manifestations, they don't have sex with the physical body, but the etheric body inside it. The energy merging feels awesome. But my usual work involves doing this stuff on Yetzirah or Briah. So I wasn't expecting anything like this.
It this what everyone else feels during intercourses with spirits?
ummm.... I don't know if anyone else has ever really felt this. But I just want comments on this.
There was one time when I had sex with a Deity while I was inside my body. I was half asleep and half awake. And it felt as if the Deity wasn't mergng Her energy in an intercourse with my physical body. It felt like She was having intercourse with a body *inside* my physical body.
It may be just that my energy body/ etheric body became loose from my physical one during the energy merging intercourse. I think that's the mechanism that works here. When spirits have physical manifestations, they don't have sex with the physical body, but the etheric body inside it. The energy merging feels awesome. But my usual work involves doing this stuff on Yetzirah or Briah. So I wasn't expecting anything like this.
It this what everyone else feels during intercourses with spirits?
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Original post: Anathema_Oracle
Well if you consider having sex with a person is having sex with a body and spirit then no. It's fun, but I dont recall her disconnecting from the body, but some people describe a type of hallucinogenic incorporeal orgasm and merging of mind/body/soul.
Id imagine deities are frigid, but then again, divine sex encounters arent in my sphere of conception.
Well if you consider having sex with a person is having sex with a body and spirit then no. It's fun, but I dont recall her disconnecting from the body, but some people describe a type of hallucinogenic incorporeal orgasm and merging of mind/body/soul.
Id imagine deities are frigid, but then again, divine sex encounters arent in my sphere of conception.
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Original post: extinctionspasm
[QUOTE=Naomi Chan;269407]I just relayed that, space cadet.[/QUOTE]
You sure you didn't mean Room 101, space monkey?
[QUOTE=Naomi Chan;269407]I just relayed that, space cadet.[/QUOTE]
You sure you didn't mean Room 101, space monkey?
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Original post: durki
Following conversation took place between a christian priest and me :-
Priest : Christianity says sex is a sin.
Me : Whether Jesus could have been born without his mother Mary ? And whether Mother Mary could have been born without conjugal union of her parents ?
Priest : Whether soul of a person gets affected by the sexual life that he leads ?
Me : Sex is part & parcel of physical body. There is an astral body inside the physical body. Physical body is just like a garment to the astral body.
Priest : If a man has ejaculation and dies 5 minutes after that, what would happen to him ?
Me : He will go to the astral sphere all the same in tune with his level of evolution.
Priest : Are celibates more divine than profligates ?
Me : Not necessarily. Stumbling block of sex can be converted into a stepping stone by taking nice care of the children thus born. You get rewarded by Nature for your unselfish acts. Some people have positive balance sheet inspite of some negative activities.
Priest : Is sex important in one'a life ?
Me : It depends upon vantage point of your mind. As mind turns more & more inward, sex becomes unimportant.
Priest : How to transform sexual energy into higher energies ?
Me : There are hatha yogic practices. Many of them need to be done on empty stomach. Bandhas are very effective. Maha-bandha means mool, uddiyana and jalandhar bandhas. You can access information in this field from such sites on internet.
Following conversation took place between a christian priest and me :-
Priest : Christianity says sex is a sin.
Me : Whether Jesus could have been born without his mother Mary ? And whether Mother Mary could have been born without conjugal union of her parents ?
Priest : Whether soul of a person gets affected by the sexual life that he leads ?
Me : Sex is part & parcel of physical body. There is an astral body inside the physical body. Physical body is just like a garment to the astral body.
Priest : If a man has ejaculation and dies 5 minutes after that, what would happen to him ?
Me : He will go to the astral sphere all the same in tune with his level of evolution.
Priest : Are celibates more divine than profligates ?
Me : Not necessarily. Stumbling block of sex can be converted into a stepping stone by taking nice care of the children thus born. You get rewarded by Nature for your unselfish acts. Some people have positive balance sheet inspite of some negative activities.
Priest : Is sex important in one'a life ?
Me : It depends upon vantage point of your mind. As mind turns more & more inward, sex becomes unimportant.
Priest : How to transform sexual energy into higher energies ?
Me : There are hatha yogic practices. Many of them need to be done on empty stomach. Bandhas are very effective. Maha-bandha means mool, uddiyana and jalandhar bandhas. You can access information in this field from such sites on internet.
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I offer following remedies to a person who approaches me and says that he is not able to do any thing constructive & good on the day that follows the night in which he had semenal emission :-
(1) Remove the guilt feeling. Periodic semenal emission is a must to remove biological toxins from the body.
(2) Have a nice bath. Then do chantings, meditation and yogic practices. You may as well do topsy-turvey pose ( shirshasana in sanskrit ) if your blood pressure permits.
(3) Remember that semenal emission belongs to body. You are some thing that survives the physical body after death.
I offer following remedies to a person who approaches me and says that he is not able to do any thing constructive & good on the day that follows the night in which he had semenal emission :-
(1) Remove the guilt feeling. Periodic semenal emission is a must to remove biological toxins from the body.
(2) Have a nice bath. Then do chantings, meditation and yogic practices. You may as well do topsy-turvey pose ( shirshasana in sanskrit ) if your blood pressure permits.
(3) Remember that semenal emission belongs to body. You are some thing that survives the physical body after death.
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[QUOTE=durki;286071]Following conversation took place between a christian priest and me :-
Priest : Christianity says sex is a sin.
Me : Whether Jesus could have been born without his mother Mary ? And whether Mother Mary could have been born without conjugal union of her parents ?
Priest : Whether soul of a person gets affected by the sexual life that he leads ?
Me : Sex is part & parcel of physical body. There is an astral body inside the physical body. Physical body is just like a garment to the astral body.
Priest : If a man has ejaculation and dies 5 minutes after that, what would happen to him ?
Me : He will go to the astral sphere all the same in tune with his level of evolution.
Priest : Are celibates more divine than profligates ?
Me : Not necessarily. Stumbling block of sex can be converted into a stepping stone by taking nice care of the children thus born. You get rewarded by Nature for your unselfish acts. Some people have positive balance sheet inspite of some negative activities.
Priest : Is sex important in one'a life ?
Me : It depends upon vantage point of your mind. As mind turns more & more inward, sex becomes unimportant.
Priest : How to transform sexual energy into higher energies ?
Me : There are hatha yogic practices. Many of them need to be done on empty stomach. Bandhas are very effective. Maha-bandha means mool, uddiyana and jalandhar bandhas. You can access information in this field from such sites on internet.[/QUOTE]
was this a catholic priest?
[QUOTE=durki;286071]Following conversation took place between a christian priest and me :-
Priest : Christianity says sex is a sin.
Me : Whether Jesus could have been born without his mother Mary ? And whether Mother Mary could have been born without conjugal union of her parents ?
Priest : Whether soul of a person gets affected by the sexual life that he leads ?
Me : Sex is part & parcel of physical body. There is an astral body inside the physical body. Physical body is just like a garment to the astral body.
Priest : If a man has ejaculation and dies 5 minutes after that, what would happen to him ?
Me : He will go to the astral sphere all the same in tune with his level of evolution.
Priest : Are celibates more divine than profligates ?
Me : Not necessarily. Stumbling block of sex can be converted into a stepping stone by taking nice care of the children thus born. You get rewarded by Nature for your unselfish acts. Some people have positive balance sheet inspite of some negative activities.
Priest : Is sex important in one'a life ?
Me : It depends upon vantage point of your mind. As mind turns more & more inward, sex becomes unimportant.
Priest : How to transform sexual energy into higher energies ?
Me : There are hatha yogic practices. Many of them need to be done on empty stomach. Bandhas are very effective. Maha-bandha means mool, uddiyana and jalandhar bandhas. You can access information in this field from such sites on internet.[/QUOTE]
was this a catholic priest?
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[QUOTE=Blackbird;291800]was this a catholic priest?[/QUOTE]
Yes, he was a catholic priest but of Indian origin.
[QUOTE=Blackbird;291800]was this a catholic priest?[/QUOTE]
Yes, he was a catholic priest but of Indian origin.
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Student : Do enlightened persons have no semenal emissions ?
Me : Enlightened persons may have semenal emissions.
Student : Then what is the difference between enlightened & un-enlightened persons ?
Me : Enlightened persons have inner awareness of Oneness of totality of creation / existence.
Student : You mean celibacy is not at all connected with the spirituality ?
Me : Look, Sri Krishna had sexual intercourses with thousands of ladies. Yet he was more enlightened than many priests who observe celibacy & continence.
Student : You mean perversion is not bad ?
Me : If two persons are equally illumined then one who is less sexy should be rated higher.
Student : Do enlightened persons have no semenal emissions ?
Me : Enlightened persons may have semenal emissions.
Student : Then what is the difference between enlightened & un-enlightened persons ?
Me : Enlightened persons have inner awareness of Oneness of totality of creation / existence.
Student : You mean celibacy is not at all connected with the spirituality ?
Me : Look, Sri Krishna had sexual intercourses with thousands of ladies. Yet he was more enlightened than many priests who observe celibacy & continence.
Student : You mean perversion is not bad ?
Me : If two persons are equally illumined then one who is less sexy should be rated higher.
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I did not take the time to read through the entire 9 pages and merely skimmed through the subject matter. The more I read of your thoughts and philosophies it seems I come to dislike you a bit more with each statement. Perhaps dislike is not the correct word as I do not know you enough to like or dislike you...so I would say I disagree with your position on many areas.
It may be that simply because you seem to be a Follower of Krishna while I am a Devotee of Lord Shiva. We come from different backgrounds and perspectives which plays a large role in the differences of our philosophies.
People are free to choose the things that they desire to do. I have no right to tell them differently even though I believe otherwise. It is not my place to judge the actions of others...I leave that to the Divine as my Finite Mind can't comprehend It's Wisdom. I only have my beliefs. Right or Wrong...it doesn't matter. A saying comes to my mind when Spirituality is involved:
"As many Streams into the Ocean. Can you find the Water of a River in the Vastness of the Sea?"
It is my sincere belief that we are all striving toward the Goal in our own ways. Like Paths to the top of a Mountain, some are short and easy while others are long and hard yet all eventually lead to the Summit of the Mountain which are the Feet of God. No one way is right as the destination is the same no matter which path you take. At least I think of it in that way...
Is Sex, Moral or Immoral? Spiritual or Non-Spiritual? It depends on who you ask. What do I think? I think that some people are meant to live such a life while a handful of others are naturally lead to a path where Sex is not important.
I am perhaps one of the few healthy males who can say with all honesty that I have never in my life had a "Wet Dream" or an Uncontrolled Emission of any kind. Since I began on this path my mind has become somewhat indifferent to things of that nature however my body acts separate from my mind and seemingly always has been. Such makes it hard to embrace celibacy however I am slowly but surely getting there. Why? Because I am compelled to seek that path however I know it isn't for most people. As a Shivite Yogi all that should exist in my mind is Bhakti for the Lord. It is that same Bhakti that drives me to embrace an ascetic lifestyle.
I do not feel like such act's are dirty, it is merely that I feel it is not the path I am meant to take in this life. This World is but a fleeting plethora of sense objects and sense pleasures. What use does one who seek's ever the Highest have use for such temporal things? I seek that which is Eternal and no fleeting material pleasure can rival...of what use is anything else?
It is considered by Yogis that Renunciation is the Key to Spiritual Enlightenment. Observance of Brahmachari is most important as to abstain for sense pleasures which bind one to the Material Realm. Semen is considered to be the vessel for the most potent Prana of the Body. By retaining this one can increase their Spiritual Energy as it is expelled during Ejaculation. Sexual Desires leads one astray from the Strict Path of Spiritual Discipline. Your Awareness must be Single Pointed like a Needle. Such becomes dull when distracted by sense objects and sense pleasures.
~Be a part of the World yet not of It. Free Your Mind and Attain the Goal!
[Note: I can't sleep and am very tired so I probably just rambled on and on about some inane points. I assure you there is a point in there somewhere...I am just not entirely sure where...]
I did not take the time to read through the entire 9 pages and merely skimmed through the subject matter. The more I read of your thoughts and philosophies it seems I come to dislike you a bit more with each statement. Perhaps dislike is not the correct word as I do not know you enough to like or dislike you...so I would say I disagree with your position on many areas.
It may be that simply because you seem to be a Follower of Krishna while I am a Devotee of Lord Shiva. We come from different backgrounds and perspectives which plays a large role in the differences of our philosophies.
People are free to choose the things that they desire to do. I have no right to tell them differently even though I believe otherwise. It is not my place to judge the actions of others...I leave that to the Divine as my Finite Mind can't comprehend It's Wisdom. I only have my beliefs. Right or Wrong...it doesn't matter. A saying comes to my mind when Spirituality is involved:
"As many Streams into the Ocean. Can you find the Water of a River in the Vastness of the Sea?"
It is my sincere belief that we are all striving toward the Goal in our own ways. Like Paths to the top of a Mountain, some are short and easy while others are long and hard yet all eventually lead to the Summit of the Mountain which are the Feet of God. No one way is right as the destination is the same no matter which path you take. At least I think of it in that way...
Is Sex, Moral or Immoral? Spiritual or Non-Spiritual? It depends on who you ask. What do I think? I think that some people are meant to live such a life while a handful of others are naturally lead to a path where Sex is not important.
I am perhaps one of the few healthy males who can say with all honesty that I have never in my life had a "Wet Dream" or an Uncontrolled Emission of any kind. Since I began on this path my mind has become somewhat indifferent to things of that nature however my body acts separate from my mind and seemingly always has been. Such makes it hard to embrace celibacy however I am slowly but surely getting there. Why? Because I am compelled to seek that path however I know it isn't for most people. As a Shivite Yogi all that should exist in my mind is Bhakti for the Lord. It is that same Bhakti that drives me to embrace an ascetic lifestyle.
I do not feel like such act's are dirty, it is merely that I feel it is not the path I am meant to take in this life. This World is but a fleeting plethora of sense objects and sense pleasures. What use does one who seek's ever the Highest have use for such temporal things? I seek that which is Eternal and no fleeting material pleasure can rival...of what use is anything else?
It is considered by Yogis that Renunciation is the Key to Spiritual Enlightenment. Observance of Brahmachari is most important as to abstain for sense pleasures which bind one to the Material Realm. Semen is considered to be the vessel for the most potent Prana of the Body. By retaining this one can increase their Spiritual Energy as it is expelled during Ejaculation. Sexual Desires leads one astray from the Strict Path of Spiritual Discipline. Your Awareness must be Single Pointed like a Needle. Such becomes dull when distracted by sense objects and sense pleasures.
~Be a part of the World yet not of It. Free Your Mind and Attain the Goal!
[Note: I can't sleep and am very tired so I probably just rambled on and on about some inane points. I assure you there is a point in there somewhere...I am just not entirely sure where...]
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Original post: Eric
Actually, it doesn't.durki;286071 wrote:Following conversation took place between a christian priest and me/quote]
Doubt it.
durki;286071 wrote: Priest : Christianity says sex is a sin.
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Original post: durki
You should have replied only after going through the whole thread.
corbin_israfael;330756 wrote:
I did not take the time to read through the entire 9 pages and merely skimmed through the subject matter.
You should have replied only after going through the whole thread.
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Original post: corbin_israfael
[QUOTE=durki;330971]You should have replied only after going through the whole thread.[/QUOTE]Why? To loose more brain cells?
I don't have the time to sit around and read page after page of text when my reply will ultimately be almost the same as if I hadn't read anything but the front page...
[QUOTE=durki;330971]You should have replied only after going through the whole thread.[/QUOTE]Why? To loose more brain cells?
I don't have the time to sit around and read page after page of text when my reply will ultimately be almost the same as if I hadn't read anything but the front page...
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Original post: durki
Actually, he was a priest-like church functionary who intended to convert me to christianity. Finally, he could not convince & conquer me.
Eric;330769 wrote: Doubt it.
Actually, he was a priest-like church functionary who intended to convert me to christianity. Finally, he could not convince & conquer me.
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Lord Jehovah granted Adam & Eve an immortal / eternal life of bliss in the garden on the condition that they do not eat the forbidden fruit. Their innocence got destroyed after they ate it. They became crooked and sexual thoughts entered into their minds with the result that they copulated to beget children. So that was the original sin which made them mortal beings suffering from diseases and vulnerable to old age & death.
Eric;330769 wrote: Actually, it doesn't.
Lord Jehovah granted Adam & Eve an immortal / eternal life of bliss in the garden on the condition that they do not eat the forbidden fruit. Their innocence got destroyed after they ate it. They became crooked and sexual thoughts entered into their minds with the result that they copulated to beget children. So that was the original sin which made them mortal beings suffering from diseases and vulnerable to old age & death.
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Original post: shadow flame
i think it's pretty obvious what he means.28 And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply,
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Original post: Draginvry
[QUOTE=shadow flame;331716]i think it's pretty obvious what he means.[/QUOTE]
The Bible is so riddled with inconsistency that I don't see how any respectable person of any reasonable logical faculty could possibly quote it without laughing out loud.
On a related note, this thread has already made me LOL twice this morning.
[QUOTE=shadow flame;331716]i think it's pretty obvious what he means.
[/QUOTE]The Bible is so riddled with inconsistency that I don't see how any respectable person of any reasonable logical faculty could possibly quote it without laughing out loud.
On a related note, this thread has already made me LOL twice this morning.
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Original post: Sapiens Vir
[QUOTE=durki;331704]Lord Jehovah granted Adam & Eve an immortal / eternal life of bliss in the garden on the condition that they do not eat the forbidden fruit. Their innocence got destroyed after they ate it. They became crooked and sexual thoughts entered into their minds with the result that they copulated to beget children. So that was the original sin which made them mortal beings suffering from diseases and vulnerable to old age & death.[/QUOTE]
Yeah he also said that if they ate of the tree that they would surely die. God lies a lot. To quote the pastor from the oblongs. " The Lord sayeth to forgive...then again the Lord sayeth a lot of things." The original sin wasn't sex it was disobedience and exercising free will.
[QUOTE=durki;331704]Lord Jehovah granted Adam & Eve an immortal / eternal life of bliss in the garden on the condition that they do not eat the forbidden fruit. Their innocence got destroyed after they ate it. They became crooked and sexual thoughts entered into their minds with the result that they copulated to beget children. So that was the original sin which made them mortal beings suffering from diseases and vulnerable to old age & death.[/QUOTE]
Yeah he also said that if they ate of the tree that they would surely die. God lies a lot. To quote the pastor from the oblongs. " The Lord sayeth to forgive...then again the Lord sayeth a lot of things." The original sin wasn't sex it was disobedience and exercising free will.
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Original post: shadow flame
[QUOTE=Draginvry;331718]The Bible is so riddled with inconsistency that I don't see how any respectable person of any reasonable logical faculty could possibly quote it without laughing out loud.[/QUOTE]
of course, but how to talk about various interpretations of xtianity without quoting it?
besides, every paradigm has inconsistencies.
[QUOTE=Draginvry;331718]The Bible is so riddled with inconsistency that I don't see how any respectable person of any reasonable logical faculty could possibly quote it without laughing out loud.[/QUOTE]
of course, but how to talk about various interpretations of xtianity without quoting it?
besides, every paradigm has inconsistencies.
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Original post: Draginvry
[QUOTE=shadow flame;331823]
besides, every paradigm has inconsistencies.[/QUOTE]
Not mine. My paradigm is a paradox that admits itself as a paradox. I am allowed to be a hypocrite, without ever actually lying.
Chaos has its advantages over dualism and logic.
[QUOTE=shadow flame;331823]
besides, every paradigm has inconsistencies.[/QUOTE]
Not mine. My paradigm is a paradox that admits itself as a paradox. I am allowed to be a hypocrite, without ever actually lying.
Chaos has its advantages over dualism and logic.
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There are lot of inconsistencies in hinduism too with regard to sex. They say that hindu god Krishna married 16108 ladies. Yet if any spiritual seeker is accidentally involved in some minor sexual activity, he is condemned very severely.
And in Islam & Judaism too. Prophet Mohammed had 14 wives including under-teen Ayesha. Yet they used to stone persons for adultery.
There are lot of inconsistencies in hinduism too with regard to sex. They say that hindu god Krishna married 16108 ladies. Yet if any spiritual seeker is accidentally involved in some minor sexual activity, he is condemned very severely.
And in Islam & Judaism too. Prophet Mohammed had 14 wives including under-teen Ayesha. Yet they used to stone persons for adultery.
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[QUOTE=durki;332551]There are lot of inconsistencies in hinduism too with regard to sex. They say that hindu god Krishna married 16108 ladies. Yet if any spiritual seeker is accidentally involved in some minor sexual activity, he is condemned very severely.[/QUOTE]
The obvious solution is to become a God yourself.
I wouldn't mind having 16,108 ladies. I suppose if you were eternal, there would be strength in numbers.
[QUOTE=durki;332551]There are lot of inconsistencies in hinduism too with regard to sex. They say that hindu god Krishna married 16108 ladies. Yet if any spiritual seeker is accidentally involved in some minor sexual activity, he is condemned very severely.[/QUOTE]
The obvious solution is to become a God yourself.
I wouldn't mind having 16,108 ladies. I suppose if you were eternal, there would be strength in numbers.
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Original post: durki
I do not see any thing lofty in being a woman-chaser. On the other hand, one should set an example of oneself to others so that they may emulate you.
Draginvry;332571 wrote: I wouldn't mind having 16,108 ladies. I suppose if you were eternal, there would be strength in numbers.
I do not see any thing lofty in being a woman-chaser. On the other hand, one should set an example of oneself to others so that they may emulate you.
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Student : Is sex evil ?
Me : Not at all. Man is at his creative & productive best between the age of 20 to 40 years and that is also the period when sex in him is maximum. As man becomes older, sex along with the intelligence & memory reduces and he becomes given to senescence & imbecility.
Student : Is sex good ?
Me : Not at all. Sex is the bestial propensity in man which makes him violent, possessive and egoistic wastrel. A sexy person can't contribute to the society.
Student : Then what exactly is sex ?
Me : It is the potential energy which should be harnessed for the benefit of oneself & others in a holistic fashion.
Student : Is sex evil ?
Me : Not at all. Man is at his creative & productive best between the age of 20 to 40 years and that is also the period when sex in him is maximum. As man becomes older, sex along with the intelligence & memory reduces and he becomes given to senescence & imbecility.
Student : Is sex good ?
Me : Not at all. Sex is the bestial propensity in man which makes him violent, possessive and egoistic wastrel. A sexy person can't contribute to the society.
Student : Then what exactly is sex ?
Me : It is the potential energy which should be harnessed for the benefit of oneself & others in a holistic fashion.