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JMPtD wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:02 pm This is like a seed growing in the dirt or a baby in the womb
Those are good analogies, and I've used them many times myself. I'd also say that they're more literal than metaphorical as well. Would Stephen Hawkings' singularity not be a seed of sorts? Or Kether? One in the same? What a coincidence in referencing a Tree of Life - it does seem fitting. Seeds and trees.

It is in fact the things that we observe around us everyday that unlock the secrets of the cosmos.

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Speaking of 3s and 9s and even 6s. Tesla thought these numbers were a code for connecting with the divine - paraphrased. There are nine numbers of creation and everything else is just a repetition of those. 6 and 9 are found in the middle pillar of the TOL, and 3 has a substantial connection with Da'ath(the abyss) which is also found in the middle pillar. The middle pillar is sometimes referred the pillar of consciousness. So, three(Saturn) would have correspondence with the abyss with 6(the Sun) below that, and finally 9(the moon) at the bottom. The abyss, the Sun, and the Moon is pretty significant symbolism to say the least.

If you multiply any other number of creation by 3, 6, or 9 and add the resulting numbers the results are pretty interesting and as far as I know all results will be/or be relative to 3, 6, and 9: 3x1=3, 3x2=6, 3x4=12(1+2=3), 3x5=15(1+5=6)...;6x1=6, 6x2=12(1+2=3), 6x3=18(1+8=9)...; 9x1=9, 9x2=18(1+8=9), 9x3=27(2+7=9)...

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Transposition and the Number 9


Here's another one: take the difference of any number and its transposition; the result will either be evenly divisible by nine or zero. 10, 01, 10-1=9(9/9=1); 11, 11, 11-11=0(0/9=0); 12, 21, 21-12=9(9/9=1); 13, 31, 31-13=18(18/9=2); 14, 41, 41-14=27(27/9=3); 15, 51, 51-15=36(36/9=4)...; solution set: 1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4...

Now try with three digits: 100, 001, 100-1=99(99/9=11); 101,110, 110-101=9(9/9=1); 102, 201, 201-102=99(99/9=11)...

Four digits: 1234, 4321, 4321-1234=3087(3087/9=343)...

Five digits...

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JMPtD wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:00 pm Those are cool facts. Do you have thoughts about the metaphysical significance of using numbers with 0 in the ones place and last tenths as checking numbers?
Sometimes, but I guess I just did it here as placeholders for the transposed number so you can see the precise ordering, but I didn't really give it much thought. I'll give you one example of similar though that I use where it is in a metaphysical context: in the TOL it is said that the tenth emanation is a reflection of the first emanation and zero(0) is symbolic of eternity as well as nothing. If you were to represent this "reflection" of "As above so below" numerically it would be 01 10, and as you can see this is what an actual reflection would look like. It also says that "nothing"(Ein Soph) came before one which is indicated by the zero in the tens place. It does seem to be less informative and meaningful if you omit the zero here.

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The Sun and the Moon : 6 : 9


Here's another one from the TOL: when the number 6(the Sun) is inverted it becomes 9(the Moon) which runs parallel with the day being inverted to become the night. This is somewhat similar to the Thelemic philosophy of Hadit and Nuit where Hadit is the all encompassing point(1) and Nuit(3) would be the night here. It's synonymous with the aether, inflation/expansion, the black(like night) of space, the black of Isis(creation), and in this case it's the spatial dimensions among other things that are being created.

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JMPtD wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:26 am Why do you say sun is six and moon is nine? If ur there still. Im going to try to connect more with Thelma.
The Nine Numbers of Creation


In the Tree of Life each sefira has a number associated with its name, and above that you have the Ein Soph Aur: Ein/Ain(nothing), Soph(no limit), and Aur(the limitless light(God)); if you combine the first two to form the Ein Soph you have no limit of nothing(infinity/infinite potential) which puts "nothing" in somewhat a more magical 'light'. 1 is God(unification(from "nothing")), 2 is the supernal masculine(Osiris), 3 is supernal feminine(Isis), 4 is Jupiter, 5 is Mars, 6 is the Sun, 7 is Venus, 8 is Mercury The Messenger(that's me), 9 is the Moon, and 10 is Earth. 2 and 3 are a direct division of the unification to create a total polarity of gender for re-creation, and in my case, also beauty and satisfaction.

God is basically everything that follows emergence from nothing(1 from 0) in various manifestations as it evolves beginning with the (limitless) light.

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JMPtD wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:44 am I’m sensing curiously why we were not taught this.
I quit my sophomore year, but I don't recall anything other than general science and theology, and the theology was mostly Bible related. My mother was Catholic and there was a Catholic school close by that some attended - just my neck of the woods though. Kabbalah is pretty niche stuff and many Jewish don't even know about it(which I extrapolated from a very small sample). Having said that though, science and theology is an integral part of my philosophy/cosmology but they are broad subjects and it depends on where you focus.

JMPtD wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:44 am Hadit is said, in The Book of the Law, to be "perfect, being Not."
Hadit appears as the primordial point to me(1), but there is an eternal connection between it and negative existence("being not"). Part of the problem here is that anything that transcends one also transcends order and ascends into an obscure chaos of which god(s) are born. Of course technically everything is "connected" anyway as it all shares a common root but this is more targeted towards fundamentals and emergence.

So, one(or God) is both being and "being not" periodically throughout eternity, although it should be realized that "periodically" loses its primary meaning upon collapsing the dimension of time where any 'thing' would occur as a single moment absent any temporal duration. The realm or state of "being not" has a few names. It can be referred as the self-begotten aspect of one, or the acausal - that which emerges without cause. The acausal IS the unmoved mover which is opposed to an eternal timeline where one would fall prey to the infinite regression of an infinite past. Even science now talks of a beginning with The Big Bang. Think about a "beginning" with no end, but that's not it. "I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning AND the end." - of time.

The thought that an omnipotent being would ever cease to exist does leave something to be desired though, but it appears to be the case - God is just largely misunderstood is all.

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JMPtD wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:19 pm And I think that the primordial of a positive and that the negative are connected...whether structure of yin or chaos yang...
When I reduce Yin/Yang to its most fundamental meaning I get negative and positive existence - the common root of all polarities. Yin(0) is the passive negative and Yang(1) is the active positive. Yin is feminine, and Yang is masculine, and one of the reflections of this(as evolved over the eons) sort of make sense when you think about it. Of course all individuals are variably unique, but comparatively speaking in a very general sort of way(and I'm going out on a limb here), women do appear on average to be more emotional(or "chaotic") than men which does appear to be somewhat at odds with the passivity - existence is just chock full o' paradoxes.

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I've never really studied Hinduism at any length, but some of the Hindu deities do come up from time to time. I believe and have had thoughts on occasion with the alignment of my own philosophy with that of Hinduism. I'm sure we could form numerous attributions with a core scientific cosmology and Hinduism, just as I have done with Kabbalah.

The most fundamental attribution of Yin/Yang that I gave is also the most abstract, and I'm not even sure if it can actually be found elsewhere. The second manifestation is more concrete and relatable where you have the masculine Yang(2 - Jah, Osiris) and the feminine Yin(3 - Jehova Elohim, Isis).

I'd have to peruse a bit to formulate the Hindu correspondences without guessing and being prone to err. There is one that comes to mind though and sort of resolves an ongoing mystery, and that is how the universe ends(or is destroyed) so that it can be re-created; running parallel with the formula of IAO: Isis(3) the creator, Apophis the destroyer(5), and Osiris(2) the re-creator(and/or preserver) - back to one of the eternal loop.

Brahma the creator(1, 3), Vishnu the preserver(2, 6), and Shiva the destroyer(5). I'm just guessing here with some of this, and I'm not absolutely certain that Kabbalah is applicable in every single instance.

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Of course it's much easier and straightforward if you just stick with the processes and mechanisms of existence and non without getting too caught up in the naming of things.

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JMPtD wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:01 pm In a method Kabbalah is good for a nice reverse kundalini brining things from the outside to the inside to be worked on by the self. The kundalini is like a working on the self thing and if one wants to go out then they can make alignments with their kriya body to do outside samyama. 1) body kundalini samyama 2) kaballah tol reception 3) outside kundalini samyama work on things in environment or still to body. Maybe Hindu is expecting because the body is constantly prominent.
Buddhism can be as primordial but not as staying primordial but as the primordial stage while its key middle element found in it between yoga is in symbolic logic what keeps one focused at the source throughout more complex stages of orderly or chaotic metaphysics. Structure, order, chaos. Yoga is focus Buddhism/chi gong/kundalini or kabbalah body is meditation yoga is samadhi all of structure less medium more, and order is yogic jogging and tai chi and less or environmental tol chakra kaballah, chaos is sports or outside of body kundalini samyama or things that are extreme and not only about the body in this method.
Kundalini is always representing the ascended state of mind and body. Kundalini after all is the "Serpent" that is above all.

I personally feel that it can be integrated with the Buddhist practice of chi as it therefore represents a technique of empowerment.
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Thanks for sharing.

Throwing aura is certainly a good ability, and it will require a lot of work.

But, I'm in for it :)
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Thank you for sharing such information.

I will be sure to study and put it in practice :)
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