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Ok. I'll start out with asking if anyone is familiar with the Egyptian language (most probably Ancient Egyptian) or with....whatever the language is that the Nubians speak? Because these are the most likely suspects as to what language what I'm writing about is. That said:

I once had a dream where there was a woman in a room. The wall in front of the woman had Egyptian looking Heiroglyphics on it. Someone the woman knew had recently died and she was doing some sort of ritual that you are supposed to do after someone has died until they are burried. For 3 days you were supposed to chant the words that were written on that wall. 3 days straight. I could hear her repeat the chant. I don't know how it should be properly spelled, but to write it phonetically, it was this:

Shafa kai
Shafa kafa Gafa hai

- or if it wasn't that it may have been more like -

Shafa kai
Kafa Gafa hai


The woman was wearing a tight black...I don't know what you call it. Only her face poked out of her clothing. I thought what she was wearing looked a lot like what I've seen Muslim women wear. Her actually being Muslim didn't make sense to me, though. I looked it up on the Internet and found some pictures of Nubian women who wear something similar.
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I spoke with a friend about this and we reached this conclusion:

The chant was most likely have been closer to:
Zhafa Khai, Khafa Gifa Ha

It sounds like a gatekeepers chant - to get the soul into the underworld, we think it is to implore the gods to take them to the first of the gates.

Usually it would have the god's name in there as well and roughly means "guide <them> through the gates".

Hope that helps.

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Wow! That does, Thanks! [happyface]
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I don't mean to be Captain Buzzkill but... the biggest problem with the whole Egyptian question is that nobody actually knows what Middle Egyptian really sounded like.
Vowels are not known. They were not part of the written lexicon of heiroglyphic characters.
As far as I know Ancient Nubian [Meroitic] has yet to be translated. [geek2]

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TheSeeker wrote:I don't mean to be Captain Buzzkill but... the biggest problem with the whole Egyptian question is that nobody actually knows what Middle Egyptian really sounded like.
Vowels are not known. They were not part of the written lexicon of heiroglyphic characters.
As far as I know Ancient Nubian [Meroitic] has yet to be translated. [geek2]
No, you're not being Buzzkillish at all. I appreciate your input. I'm really not sure what language it was, those were just the ones that seemed most logical to me. And after I posted it I remembered that they may have been more like Pictographs than Heiroglyphics. I'm not sure that makes a difference.
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