adoni (and venus)

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Original post: aware

forgive me if its spelt wrong but is adoni/adonis, the 'middle pillar' of microcosmos...the just and perfect?
and in regards to ovids metamorphos 'series'
i find the story of him and venus deeeeeeeeeeeply cryptic... if.venus is as in some refrences 'lucifer'
is this a guide to ''realization'' and reunity of the fallen..

(sorry this is very brief and unscholarly,but my whole theory would require several articles)

any info,oppinions,guidance,tips etc, very much appreciated.


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Original post: ~ Serenity ~

Venus does indeed reference Lucifer. Its a deep esoteric connection. Good questions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Lucifer


fera

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Original post: pmcv

Feranaja, I am glad to see you stop in to our humble little forum!!! The lady who loves dogs almost as much as my own beloved

Anyway, let me just give a "ditto" here in saying that in the connection between Venus and "Lucifer" (or Aphrodite and Phosophoros) is a generally accepted idea. In fact, it is not even really that esoteric, in that it is common historical knowledge.

However, your offering was so vague that I can't guess if your personal theories are in any way different from general academic understanding or not. If your outline requires several posts, don't be afraid. One thing respected in the field of Gnosticism is attention span

Let me just put this in context for this forum and state that there are a few "light bearers" (roughly thranslated as "lucifer"). There is also a Venus-like figure in the fallen Sophia, as well as an unfallen version that may be closer to the Athena figure... both as seen from a Platonist backdrop. None of this is so "deeeeeeeeeeeply cryptic" as one may think, but instead some of the most basic ideas of Gnosticism.

PMCV

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Original post: Elfwyn

Are you implying that Adonai (Hebrew-lord) and Adonis, beloved of Aphrodite and Persephone are the same??? I've been pondering that for a little while now and gee, I don't know.

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Original post: aware

Fera', im onto a bigger picture here im sure....

Pmcv,im gunna continue to decypher Ovids Metamorphos slowly...
tho in my many 'quests' at the mo' im coming up at thomas/tutmos(sylabilic)
and i understand that critics believe leonardo's last feast depicts 'Thomas'
not the ''whore''(with gentle emphasis) Mary Magdalene,
but i have a hunt ongoing for 'master thomas'('I-self' i would believe)
who in my vision left a journal/book and a small pouch containing something?!? hidden in a statley home/mansion,my only reference i can gather so far, is it might be the mason who during the restoration built the 'college'......anyway.
and the tutmos/tuthmosis(Etc)....i have been trying to understand my astral(or maybe hier/higher plane) anchorage to a trench below an obelisk(phallic?)....and its possible refernce to a word i had delivered to me spontaneously,'gallus'..&..the gauls/cybele priesthood,etc,..(i believe the obelisk might be the tutmos 3rds in turkey)
little that i know the masses were castrated...althou i believe this is not literal at times..

but anyway...the overall picture im getting at the moment is..
when the fallen,yet holy, body of man(or for the sake of sense,sons of son of man)
is united with his lucifer/venus,true realization grows,(and this might offend a lot of people..) it grows as the true water lily/lotus....
for the 'true'(or a,) third eye, is the same exit as entry to the world(w.o.s.7.6?),a womans 'womb'
it was in my face all the time that the symbol for ankh is the same as a womb in early monastic art,but it also means pupil,or maiden and virgin...but i never linkd it in true order.

In another vision i met some priestly characters, who gave me a gift, a envelope of parchments/books,bound in white silk,and as i touched it i had the words 'geneology/holy grail' enter my mind...but i have always felt the grail is grael, holy blood, as in ref' to descendants of 'christ'

but as i read the tale of venus and adonis, i felt i could relate to the whole story,i seem to be realming in both the male and female aspects of a fallen angel(my own theory of enochs 20 names for 10 angels) and this i need to understand for i have not approached my isis,black virgin,whore,my mary,etc,,heh,heh,so im still a virgin

Also i feel i should mention that in the adam and eve tale(i have not read,but know on account)....adams apple might relate to his throut chakra/taurean aspects,,and as taurus
is dominant thru many civilisations,i should mention im a taurus, and that i feel the horns also relate to the higher realms,and/or left right hand....and/or...the moon/gateway

so i need some opinions on the matter of unified recalls of both sex's

P.s, Elfwyn, i've only just read about adonis, but like other second hand tales, from the 'great libraries' raised and raided over milleni'...figures get changes,evolved, and even cut up, an example ,brigit/brigid,....and btw, are you from wales(and caerleon?)

Thanks all

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Original post: Aodh

[QUOTE=Elfwyn]Are you implying that Adonai (Hebrew-lord) and Adonis, beloved of Aphrodite and Persephone are the same??? I've been pondering that for a little while now and gee, I don't know.[/QUOTE]
Well, it is known that the name Adnois evolved from Adonai, the Latinized version of the Hebrew word for Lord. But in my opinion and experiences, any further connection between them is based on wishful thinking. *shrug*

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Original post: ~ Serenity ~

[QUOTE=pmcv]Feranaja, I am glad to see you stop in to our humble little forum!!! The lady who loves dogs almost as much as my own beloved

Anyway, let me just give a "ditto" here in saying that in the connection between Venus and "Lucifer" (or Aphrodite and Phosophoros) is a generally accepted idea. In fact, it is not even really that esoteric, in that it is common historical knowledge.

However, your offering was so vague that I can't guess if your personal theories are in any way different from general academic understanding or not. If your outline requires several posts, don't be afraid. One thing respected in the field of Gnosticism is attention span

Let me just put this in context for this forum and state that there are a few "light bearers" (roughly thranslated as "lucifer"). There is also a Venus-like figure in the fallen Sophia, as well as an unfallen version that may be closer to the Athena figure... both as seen from a Platonist backdrop. None of this is so "deeeeeeeeeeeply cryptic" as one may think, but instead some of the most basic ideas of Gnosticism.

PMCV[/QUOTE]
Hiya pmcv...and yes I think I come close to that level of dog adoration ...maaaybe..lol

I was referencing the Sophia Prunikos, the fallen Sophia, esoterically, Sophia the harlot...
if thats making sense now...

fera